The dating costs add up quickly in Moscow or Piter. 1) "A Ukrainian women will not go out with a man who decreases her chance for a more comfortable life" 2) "Women evaluate a man's worth not just based on personality or ability to please them sexually but rather how well they could provide financially for them in the future" I totally disagree. All of the 25 yo russian women that I've fucked (and without bragging, there was more than a few) had NO materialistic expectations.BTW I think that a lot of guys get the impression that Russian women are easy targets. Pro I was par-phasing from Roosh's book, but I tend to generally agree with him. Ukrainian women are on the whole rather mercenary, sneaky and conniving, at least in my opinion. The other one, I won't diffuse its name publically.It's a very direct way of doing things but no doubt saves a lot of wasted dates and time for both parties. I think that such directness which would be somewhat uncouth in the west is actually the way that many women prefer things to be done in the East.I ask in most part because of the two Russian girls I had over in Nice recently: they want to come visit me in Nice again in July when I will be back here.Most of the girls and women I've invited here still send me from time to time sms or messages on facebook, saying how much they miss the good moments we spent in Paris together. Paul (well-known french bakery stores) pastries: Greek, out of interest do you offer things to them directly and verbalise things so directly, as in "I will visit you and buy you a mink coat and you will spend a week with me in return" kind of thing?
Since we seem to be somewhat lazy, how about some cliff notes. Russian women think guys who buy drinks and dinner are betas. Be forward without being rude, be direct without being oafish.
If it's the same one I'm on too let's call it RIR in short - so we are clear it's same one.
Hopefully I my experience is better with the Russian women as I did agree with what you said earlier about Ukrainian women. By the way I have met through this site and invited here in Paris (them paying for their flight) MANY travel-ready russian dyevs, mostly 25-35 yo successful professionals working mentally and physically draining jobs (especially in Moscow and Piter, there is a whole generation of office staff/young professional dyev that has enough money to travel extensively), already in possession of Shengen visas that they either acquired through work or got from previous holidays.
If your a frequent visitor to Russia or other FSU especially for work, business, cultural, etc reasons I'm sure you might be able to meet and game a higher class of women but for most of the average guys pipe-lining the internet for a regular relationship, money will be a central consideration especially for a more attractive women. If by "pipe-lining the internet", you talk of mamba, I agree, but there is excellent "East meets West" dating sites where women are legit, genuine, honest, selfless, and value much more intellectual and emotional harmony than the size of a wallet. It's too good, and I don't want that hundreds of new guys start to spam the girls and spoil the answer ratio.
Furthermore, an advice: when you ask this type of things, better ask politely if you want to have an answer.On average, thanks to this site (and before Lucky Lovers, which was great till 2008) and to my own trips, I have two russian women visiting each month - not all are new contacts of course, some of them come here two or three times a year, and some of them I know since four or five years. only simple touristic things and nice and friendly places. Really, all of my GFs have been totally happy with that, and even the most wealthy ones (one of my long-term GF is married to an oligarch, another one is a well-known TV presenter, ect).